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Peter75

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:01 pm
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Howdy, Howdy, Howdy...



I'm replacing the Heater Core on a 1992 Chevy Lumina. Pretty easy but
there are two problems...that I'd appreciate a little advice on.

How does one grab and release the spring clamp on the Heater core
inlet and outlet hoses. I can't seem to reach them with anything (a longer
arm would help) and the clamp ends are so close to each other that I can't
grab them with a vise grip or hose clamp pliers. Do you techs use a special
tool or a very long handled needle nose?

#2 ... one hose has a quick disconnect fitting on the end, connecting onto
an engine pipe. Is there a special tool or method for removing this ??

Thanking you in advance....

Peter

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:56 pm
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Disconnect the dogbone mounts and block the engine forward, much better
access to the hoses.
"Peter" wrote in message

 > Howdy, Howdy, Howdy...
 >
 >
 >
 > I'm replacing the Heater Core on a 1992 Chevy Lumina. Pretty easy but
 > there are two problems...that I'd appreciate a little advice on.
 >
 > How does one grab and release the spring clamp on the Heater core
 > inlet and outlet hoses. I can't seem to reach them with anything (a
 > longer
 > arm would help) and the clamp ends are so close to each other that I
 > can't
 > grab them with a vise grip or hose clamp pliers. Do you techs use a
 > special
 > tool or a very long handled needle nose?
 >
 > #2 ... one hose has a quick disconnect fitting on the end, connecting
 > onto
 > an engine pipe. Is there a special tool or method for removing this ??
 >
 > Thanking you in advance....
 >
 > Peter




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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:39 am
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Peter wrote:

 > How does one grab and release the spring clamp on the Heater core
 > inlet and outlet hoses. I can't seem to reach them with anything
 > (a longer arm would help) and the clamp ends are so close to each
 > other that I can't grab them with a vise grip or hose clamp pliers.
 > Do you techs use a special tool or a very long handled needle nose?

Yep, I use a special tool that is designed to hook onto those spring
clamps. In really tight quarters, there is another tool that basically is
the same as the one I have, but it has long flexible cables. You can
hook it onto the spring clamp and then release the tension on the
clamp from a more comfortable position. I used to use regular
pliers, but they don't work well, and you can also damage the
spring clamp so that it does not have the correct tension when
re-installed.

Here is a picture of what these tools look like:

<a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/may28655.html" target="_blank">http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/may28655.html</a>


 > #2 ... one hose has a quick disconnect fitting on the end,
 > connecting onto an engine pipe. Is there a special tool or method
 > for removing this ??

Usually...you can just press the two plastic tangs toward the pipe
and remove the quick connect. If you look closely at the connection,
you can figure out how it works.

Ian
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Peter75

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:41 pm
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Thanks for providing the information Ian...... it helps alot....

I appreciate that you the time to help out an amateur, I find
that working on cars (as a hobby) is fun, but it sometimes gets
so frustrating when one doesn't have the information or the
hints and tips that make the job go smoothly.

Thanks again for taking the time to share your knowledge !!

Peter




On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:42:08 GMT, "shiden_kai"
wrote:

 >Peter wrote:
 >
  >> How does one grab and release the spring clamp on the Heater core
  >> inlet and outlet hoses. I can't seem to reach them with anything
  >> (a longer arm would help) and the clamp ends are so close to each
  >> other that I can't grab them with a vise grip or hose clamp pliers.
  >> Do you techs use a special tool or a very long handled needle nose?
 >
 >Yep, I use a special tool that is designed to hook onto those spring
 >clamps. In really tight quarters, there is another tool that basically is
 >the same as the one I have, but it has long flexible cables. You can
 >hook it onto the spring clamp and then release the tension on the
 >clamp from a more comfortable position. I used to use regular
 >pliers, but they don't work well, and you can also damage the
 >spring clamp so that it does not have the correct tension when
 >re-installed.
 >
 >Here is a picture of what these tools look like:
 >
 >http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/may28655.html
 >
 >
  >> #2 ... one hose has a quick disconnect fitting on the end,
  >> connecting onto an engine pipe. Is there a special tool or method
  >> for removing this ??
 >
 >Usually...you can just press the two plastic tangs toward the pipe
 >and remove the quick connect. If you look closely at the connection,
 >you can figure out how it works.
 >
 >Ian
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:22 am
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Peter wrote

 > Thanks for providing the information Ian...... it helps alot....
 >
 > I appreciate that you the time to help out an amateur, I find
 > that working on cars (as a hobby) is fun, but it sometimes gets
 > so frustrating when one doesn't have the information or the
 > hints and tips that make the job go smoothly.

No problem.....I understand completely..I'm always amazed
that amateur techs can get so much done. If I had to work
with less then good conditions and tools, I'd probably rather
not. Of course, I'm quite lazy by nature...(grin)

 > Thanks again for taking the time to share your knowledge !!

You are most welcome...

Ian
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:21 am
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Channel Locks is what I used on my Corsica....damn plastic heater core
crap......and why are you removing the hose off the engine side??

Should be able to reach all underneath the car.

"Peter" wrote in message

 > Howdy, Howdy, Howdy...
 >
 >
 >
 > I'm replacing the Heater Core on a 1992 Chevy Lumina. Pretty easy but
 > there are two problems...that I'd appreciate a little advice on.
 >
 > How does one grab and release the spring clamp on the Heater core
 > inlet and outlet hoses. I can't seem to reach them with anything (a
longer
 > arm would help) and the clamp ends are so close to each other that I
can't
 > grab them with a vise grip or hose clamp pliers. Do you techs use a
special
 > tool or a very long handled needle nose?
 >
 > #2 ... one hose has a quick disconnect fitting on the end, connecting
onto
 > an engine pipe. Is there a special tool or method for removing this ??
 >
 > Thanking you in advance....
 >
 > Peter
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:21 am
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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:30:26 GMT, "Eightupman" wrote:

 >Channel Locks is what I used on my Corsica....damn plastic heater core
 >crap......and why are you removing the hose off the engine side??
 >
 >Should be able to reach all underneath the car.
 >

This is an APV (mini van) ..... the clamps are way down on the fireware between the strut
tower and the engine. Not a lot of clearance, plus the original spring clamps are
oriented so that the arms are blocking acess . Can't access them from
down under either. Ian suggested the best tool for the job where the access is
extremely limited. (working smarter not harder ).

I'm replacing both inlet and outlet hoses as they probably are original and about 12
years old. Time for replacement. This means disconnecting the
quick disconnect coupling without creating additional problems for myself. (or creating
future leaks).

Thanks.... ( I don't have the heater core out yet.... but it's probably brass. 12 years
is pretty good for a heater core.). Hope the plastic replacement lasts as long, but
if it doesn't, the next time I do this will be easier, thanks to the lessons learned
this time around !!!

Peter
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:18 pm
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 >the next time I do this will be easier,
 > thanks to the lessons learned this time

Reading your post, the old time-honored phrase leaps to mind: "If it
aint' broke, don't fix it" Adhering to this true maxim, may be your
'lesson learned' if you continue. IMO Smile

Dave S(Texas)
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:21 am
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Ah...that 'splains it then........damn minivans.......LOL

"Peter" wrote in message


wrote:
 >
  > >Channel Locks is what I used on my Corsica....damn plastic heater core
  > >crap......and why are you removing the hose off the engine side??
  > >
  > >Should be able to reach all underneath the car.
  > >
 >
 > This is an APV (mini van) ..... the clamps are way down on the fireware
between the strut
 > tower and the engine. Not a lot of clearance, plus the original spring
clamps are
 > oriented so that the arms are blocking acess . Can't access them from
 > down under either. Ian suggested the best tool for the job where the
access is
 > extremely limited. (working smarter not harder ).
 >
 > I'm replacing both inlet and outlet hoses as they probably are original
and about 12
 > years old. Time for replacement. This means disconnecting the
 > quick disconnect coupling without creating additional problems for myself.
(or creating
 > future leaks).
 >
 > Thanks.... ( I don't have the heater core out yet.... but it's probably
brass. 12 years
 > is pretty good for a heater core.). Hope the plastic replacement lasts
as long, but
 > if it doesn't, the next time I do this will be easier, thanks to the
lessons learned
 > this time around !!!
 >
 > Peter
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:21 am
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YOU shiden_kai, are my HERO!!!!! I love finding new tools to do stuff
easier!!!!

Eightupman


"shiden_kai" wrote in message

 > Peter wrote:
 >
  > > How does one grab and release the spring clamp on the Heater core
  > > inlet and outlet hoses. I can't seem to reach them with anything
  > > (a longer arm would help) and the clamp ends are so close to each
  > > other that I can't grab them with a vise grip or hose clamp pliers.
  > > Do you techs use a special tool or a very long handled needle nose?
 >
 > Yep, I use a special tool that is designed to hook onto those spring
 > clamps. In really tight quarters, there is another tool that basically is
 > the same as the one I have, but it has long flexible cables. You can
 > hook it onto the spring clamp and then release the tension on the
 > clamp from a more comfortable position. I used to use regular
 > pliers, but they don't work well, and you can also damage the
 > spring clamp so that it does not have the correct tension when
 > re-installed.
 >
 > Here is a picture of what these tools look like:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/may28655.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/may28655.html</font</a>>
 >
 >
  > > #2 ... one hose has a quick disconnect fitting on the end,
  > > connecting onto an engine pipe. Is there a special tool or method
  > > for removing this ??
 >
 > Usually...you can just press the two plastic tangs toward the pipe
 > and remove the quick connect. If you look closely at the connection,
 > you can figure out how it works.
 >
 > Ian
 >
 >
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:48 am
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I doubt like hell your heater core is brass.
Plastic tanks and aluminum core is more like it. Very common to break
the pipes off the tanks trying to remove hoses in tight spaces that are
welded on after twelve years..

Best Of Luck

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